Another Stupid NY Times article

Jim Rutenberg, in an article titled "Scary Ads Take Campaign to a Grim New Level," has the gall to write this.

"In a commercial created by a group of family members who lost loved ones in the Iraq war called Real Voices, which the MoveOn political action committee paid to run in several battleground states through Friday, Cindy Sheehan, the mother of a soldier killed in Iraq, recounts the unbearable pain of losing her son and all but implicates the president in his death."

Let's be clear, she DOES implicate Bush in his death.  But the NeoCon Times can't bear to say this. It is perfectly clear that Bush is responsible for a great deal of death.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/17/politics/campaign/17ads.html?ei=5094&en=863234845791eaec&h p=&ex=1097985600&partner=homepage&pagewanted=print&position=



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The Times will endorse John Kerry tomorrow.  This time they did something smart!
by Marie Smith on Sat Oct 16, 2004 at 09:39:07 PM EST

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The Times's editorial page is completely separate from the News side.  The editorial page tries to get its facts straight, while we know how the news side operates.  
by Alan S on Sat Oct 16, 2004 at 11:45:02 PM EST
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Do we know how the hard news side operates?

I don't know this, and I know people who work at the Times, so what is it that you know?

Yes, there is a neocon mind set at the Times, but for the most part it's not radical nor is it universal.  The bigger problem is the unwillingness to present anything that might be considered or construed as "opinion" in a delicate "hard news" article.  This too is a mind set, and is often manipulated by news sources.  

Face it.  Presenting or confirming that Bush might have caused thousands of deaths by his actions is explosive.  It's the type of thing that many journalists are going to be allergic about.  Especially the Times, which likes to think of itself as the objective newspaper of record.  "Just the facts, Mam."

Of course one person's "opinion" is another person's "judgment."  And the Times often falls, lamentably, short of its own ideals. I frequently rage at the Times for being imbedded in conventional wisdoms and failing to provide perspective nedessary to understand the news it is reporting.

But all in all the news side does try, which only a handful of other outlets even aspire to do.  Consider also the challenge in personnel.  Very few journalists/writers have the skill/talent/knowledge to provide context in news articles that also are communicating facts.  In this case the "facts" involve ads that don't pretend to objectivity--that are intended to persuade.  Face it, that's a swaying tightrope to traverse as you're writing--or editing--an article under deadline pressure.

Of course, some writers, and editors, may also be moral cowards.

by Reptile on Sun Oct 17, 2004 at 08:07:32 AM EST
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What is it I know?  I know the news they print and the news they don't.  Speaks for itself.  The Times has an agenda.  They are not as heavy handed about it as Fox, but that doesn't mean it isn't there.
by Alan S on Sun Oct 17, 2004 at 11:00:01 AM EST
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With all due respect, Alan, A mind set isn't an agenda.  I know what you mean, and there are plenty out there with an "agenda."  But the problem with the Times coverage is a mind set, which I was trying to explain.

I find it most profitable to try to understand the world as it is, and thus test my hypotheses with new information.

That doesn't mean we have to ACCEPT the world as it is.  But to change the world, we have to do our best to understand it first.

by Reptile on Tue Oct 19, 2004 at 07:47:40 AM EST
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